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		<title>By: The small things spoil the &#64258;ight &#171; Jack Yan: the Persuader Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The small things spoil the &#64258;ight &#171; Jack Yan: the Persuader Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:49:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] We might get critical over the upcoming uniforms, but the service on Air New Zealand that I experienced was very good. The staff was brilliant (deserving of whatever award was given to them), and the personal screens remain a lifesaver for in-air boredom. (I was surprised that Lufthansa, an airline I used to enjoy &#64258;ying, still has not caught up with what must be seven- or eight-year-old technology on any of the aircraft I &#64258;ew.) Thank goodness, too, that we international travellers did not have to put up with the ghastly nude safety video (which is mostly distracting and not at all helpful). &#160; &#160;But it was not without problems. On the Auckland–Hong Kong leg, I had to ponder the following: • why were the announcements in English and Mandarin, when most Cantonese-speaking Hong Kong people do not understand Mandarin? (How different are Mandarin and Cantonese? Ask yourself: how different are Danish and Italian? Same idea.) On a &#64258;ight in 2008, I speci&#64257;cally had to ask the Air New Zealand &#64258;ight crew to do announcements in the correct dialect for the destination. I managed to get two out of them before they reverted back to Mandarin. (Compare this to Lufthansa, which provided English, German and Cantonese on the Hong Kong–Frankfurt &#64258;ight.) Now, if I were &#64258;ying to Beijing or Taipei, I would get the fact that Mandarin was spoken. But to Hong Kong, where you might get stuck-up, proud southerners like me? I remain puzzled, because I have now taken enough &#64258;ights to know the 2008 experience was not anomalous; • why did the subtitles on the safety video switch from Chinese to Japanese three-quarters of the way through? (Let’s not even bring up the war on this one); • why was a Korean &#64257;lm labelled as ‘Chinese’ in the menu, when it clearly was not? Apart from the actors’ names, the credits were clearly in Korean script. Unless Air New Zealand believes ‘Asia’ is one place. (On a related note, I am told that it is impossible to search for &#64258;ights to New Delhi via the Air New Zealand website: India is not considered an important enough nation.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] We might get critical over the upcoming uniforms, but the service on Air New Zealand that I experienced was very good. The staff was brilliant (deserving of whatever award was given to them), and the personal screens remain a lifesaver for in-air boredom. (I was surprised that Lufthansa, an airline I used to enjoy &#64258;ying, still has not caught up with what must be seven- or eight-year-old technology on any of the aircraft I &#64258;ew.) Thank goodness, too, that we international travellers did not have to put up with the ghastly nude safety video (which is mostly distracting and not at all helpful). &nbsp; &nbsp;But it was not without problems. On the Auckland–Hong Kong leg, I had to ponder the following: • why were the announcements in English and Mandarin, when most Cantonese-speaking Hong Kong people do not understand Mandarin? (How different are Mandarin and Cantonese? Ask yourself: how different are Danish and Italian? Same idea.) On a &#64258;ight in 2008, I speci&#64257;cally had to ask the Air New Zealand &#64258;ight crew to do announcements in the correct dialect for the destination. I managed to get two out of them before they reverted back to Mandarin. (Compare this to Lufthansa, which provided English, German and Cantonese on the Hong Kong–Frankfurt &#64258;ight.) Now, if I were &#64258;ying to Beijing or Taipei, I would get the fact that Mandarin was spoken. But to Hong Kong, where you might get stuck-up, proud southerners like me? I remain puzzled, because I have now taken enough &#64258;ights to know the 2008 experience was not anomalous; • why did the subtitles on the safety video switch from Chinese to Japanese three-quarters of the way through? (Let’s not even bring up the war on this one); • why was a Korean &#64257;lm labelled as ‘Chinese’ in the menu, when it clearly was not? Apart from the actors’ names, the credits were clearly in Korean script. Unless Air New Zealand believes ‘Asia’ is one place. (On a related note, I am told that it is impossible to search for &#64258;ights to New Delhi via the Air New Zealand website: India is not considered an important enough nation.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PatsyBoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>PatsyBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 08:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Rob does seem to like lots of pink, and candy stripe, and lots of spun self promotion and adulation from no-name magazines. You&#039;re either a &#039;yes man&#039; or you&#039;re &#039;not supportive&#039;.

Concierges (Flight Attendants who aren&#039;t allowed to be called Flight Attendants in case they ask to be allowed to sleep) were the first victms of &#039;Rob Wear&#039; fetish. One has to feel sorry for this poor dear putting on a brave face while someone asks if Rob let her have his shirt after breakfast:

http://albionlondon.typepad.com/log/images/2008/06/17/dsc00442.jpg

Midlife crisis taste, a matronly designer, and middle managers without a clue, sounds like the perfect team to come up with the worlds worst airline uniform:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1242308/Air-New-Zealand-staff-say-new-cabin-crew-uniform-makes-look-like-drag-queens.html

Now, wear can I find an obscure rag mag to award Air NZ Uniform of the Year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Rob does seem to like lots of pink, and candy stripe, and lots of spun self promotion and adulation from no-name magazines. You&#8217;re either a &#8216;yes man&#8217; or you&#8217;re &#8216;not supportive&#8217;.</p>
<p>Concierges (Flight Attendants who aren&#8217;t allowed to be called Flight Attendants in case they ask to be allowed to sleep) were the first victms of &#8216;Rob Wear&#8217; fetish. One has to feel sorry for this poor dear putting on a brave face while someone asks if Rob let her have his shirt after breakfast:</p>
<p><a href="http://albionlondon.typepad.com/log/images/2008/06/17/dsc00442.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://albionlondon.typepad.com/log/images/2008/06/17/dsc00442.jpg</a></p>
<p>Midlife crisis taste, a matronly designer, and middle managers without a clue, sounds like the perfect team to come up with the worlds worst airline uniform:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1242308/Air-New-Zealand-staff-say-new-cabin-crew-uniform-makes-look-like-drag-queens.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1242308/Air-New-Zealand-staff-say-new-cabin-crew-uniform-makes-look-like-drag-queens.html</a></p>
<p>Now, wear can I find an obscure rag mag to award Air NZ Uniform of the Year.</p>
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		<title>By: horrified</title>
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		<dc:creator>horrified</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rob fyfe likes pink and thinks he looks really hip and with-it. Is it any co-incidence that the worlds worst uniforms have been rolled out under his command? Good taste rob. Lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rob fyfe likes pink and thinks he looks really hip and with-it. Is it any co-incidence that the worlds worst uniforms have been rolled out under his command? Good taste rob. Lol</p>
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		<title>By: Tania</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tania</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 06:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why couldn&#039;t you go with Charmaine love ever her dress that fergie wore was buch better.  These designers are not reflecting Aotearoa. PINK..PINK what the???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why couldn&#8217;t you go with Charmaine love ever her dress that fergie wore was buch better.  These designers are not reflecting Aotearoa. PINK..PINK what the???</p>
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		<title>By: Al</title>
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		<dc:creator>Al</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 02:47:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awful.  Cheap.  Nasty.

It looks like I&#039;ll be flying anyone but NZ cos those uniforms will hurt my eyes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awful.  Cheap.  Nasty.</p>
<p>It looks like I&#8217;ll be flying anyone but NZ cos those uniforms will hurt my eyes!</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Yan</title>
		<link>http://lucire.com/insider/20100108/air-new-zealand-shows-rst-trelise-cooper-designed-uniforms/#comment-2999</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Yan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 00:17:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave: hear, hear! I have &#64258;own to India and the closest I can get with Air New Zealand is Hong Kong. From there it’s Cathay Paci&#64257;c in to New Delhi (yet to try the Mumbai route).
&#160; &#160;You are so right, this is a massive omission—even &lt;i&gt;respecting&lt;/i&gt; Indian New Zealanders enough to put three major cities in to the system would be something. And with India a growing force—we even sell Indian cars here, now (what we call the Suzuki Alto)—it is as important to service that country as China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave: hear, hear! I have &#64258;own to India and the closest I can get with Air New Zealand is Hong Kong. From there it’s Cathay Paci&#64257;c in to New Delhi (yet to try the Mumbai route).<br />
&nbsp; &nbsp;You are so right, this is a massive omission—even <i>respecting</i> Indian New Zealanders enough to put three major cities in to the system would be something. And with India a growing force—we even sell Indian cars here, now (what we call the Suzuki Alto)—it is as important to service that country as China.</p>
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		<title>By: davywavy</title>
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		<dc:creator>davywavy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Jack Yan: Many might agree with you about Singapore Airlines.

Looking for flights, I was surprised to discover that if you go the Air New Zealand website to try to book a ticket to India, it does not recognize any Indian destination. Delhi, Mumbai or Chennai, or their three letter codes, the booking engine will tell you - &quot;no airports found.&quot;

Now I believe Air NZ has agreements with airlines that do fly to India - and Singapore is one - but I know that if I were Indian I would simply go to another airline&#039;s website.

This was confirmed to me by the Indian family at my local store, who prefer to fly Singapore when they go to India with Qantas as second choice. 

When they fly trans-Tasman, of course they use Qantas so they can build by frequent flyer points.

I asked them about Air New Zealand and one of them laughed and said that Air NZ doesn&#039;t even know where India is.

I&#039;m not suggesting that Air NZ fly its own aircraft do India, but I do think they should make it somewhat easier for Indian Kiwis - a sizeable minority - to get to India.

And I think that has a greater priority than throwing yet more money at yet another trendy Auckland designer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jack Yan: Many might agree with you about Singapore Airlines.</p>
<p>Looking for flights, I was surprised to discover that if you go the Air New Zealand website to try to book a ticket to India, it does not recognize any Indian destination. Delhi, Mumbai or Chennai, or their three letter codes, the booking engine will tell you &#8211; &#8220;no airports found.&#8221;</p>
<p>Now I believe Air NZ has agreements with airlines that do fly to India &#8211; and Singapore is one &#8211; but I know that if I were Indian I would simply go to another airline&#8217;s website.</p>
<p>This was confirmed to me by the Indian family at my local store, who prefer to fly Singapore when they go to India with Qantas as second choice. </p>
<p>When they fly trans-Tasman, of course they use Qantas so they can build by frequent flyer points.</p>
<p>I asked them about Air New Zealand and one of them laughed and said that Air NZ doesn&#8217;t even know where India is.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not suggesting that Air NZ fly its own aircraft do India, but I do think they should make it somewhat easier for Indian Kiwis &#8211; a sizeable minority &#8211; to get to India.</p>
<p>And I think that has a greater priority than throwing yet more money at yet another trendy Auckland designer.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 12:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bring back Barbara Lee

These photos are 7 years old but that uniform still looks fresh and smart - and is both identifiably New Zealand and Air New Zealand.

Bring back someone who understood fashion and brand management. Bring back Barbara Lee.

http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/resources/tasman_takeoff_1.jpg

http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/resources/tasman_takeoff_3.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bring back Barbara Lee</p>
<p>These photos are 7 years old but that uniform still looks fresh and smart &#8211; and is both identifiably New Zealand and Air New Zealand.</p>
<p>Bring back someone who understood fashion and brand management. Bring back Barbara Lee.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/resources/tasman_takeoff_1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/resources/tasman_takeoff_1.jpg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/resources/tasman_takeoff_3.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/resources/tasman_takeoff_3.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jack Yan</title>
		<link>http://lucire.com/insider/20100108/air-new-zealand-shows-rst-trelise-cooper-designed-uniforms/#comment-2975</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Yan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pam, I like what you had to write there. No airline can afford to make any uniform changes—let alone one in which we, the public, have a stake—without staff consultation.
&#160; &#160;The &#64257;rst rule of branding—maybe not the &#64257;rst, but certainly one that you should know in your &#64257;rst hour—is that the internal audience must be won before anyone on the outside is even contacted.
&#160; &#160;If Air New Zealand has failed to do this, then its management is more clueless than I had ever imagined. It’s the &#64257;rst sign of a dysfunctional organization: one that fails to have any real internal communication. Oftentimes it &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; middle management that messes it up, and I think you’ve hit it on the head.
&#160; &#160;A big part of this is not so much whether these uniforms suck or not, but what do they tell us about the organization behind them? If you were kept in the dark, and if there is a thought-police in the organization, then that is very bad news, especially in the 21st century.
&#160; &#160;What choice, then, does Air New Zealand staff have but to voice its concerns publicly? (And I am very glad you did.)
&#160; &#160;Despite where this story has been published, what this is probably &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; about is fashion: there is a brand, a vision, a strategy, and a set of requirements.
&#160; &#160;How to do it right? Singapore Airlines seems to have a clue. A solid brand, and its uniforms re&#64258;ect that evolution. While I sometimes love the Kiwi humour that the cabin crew engages in, I’d rather have the service levels that Singapore provides any day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pam, I like what you had to write there. No airline can afford to make any uniform changes—let alone one in which we, the public, have a stake—without staff consultation.<br />
&nbsp; &nbsp;The &#64257;rst rule of branding—maybe not the &#64257;rst, but certainly one that you should know in your &#64257;rst hour—is that the internal audience must be won before anyone on the outside is even contacted.<br />
&nbsp; &nbsp;If Air New Zealand has failed to do this, then its management is more clueless than I had ever imagined. It’s the &#64257;rst sign of a dysfunctional organization: one that fails to have any real internal communication. Oftentimes it <i>is</i> middle management that messes it up, and I think you’ve hit it on the head.<br />
&nbsp; &nbsp;A big part of this is not so much whether these uniforms suck or not, but what do they tell us about the organization behind them? If you were kept in the dark, and if there is a thought-police in the organization, then that is very bad news, especially in the 21st century.<br />
&nbsp; &nbsp;What choice, then, does Air New Zealand staff have but to voice its concerns publicly? (And I am very glad you did.)<br />
&nbsp; &nbsp;Despite where this story has been published, what this is probably <i>not</i> about is fashion: there is a brand, a vision, a strategy, and a set of requirements.<br />
&nbsp; &nbsp;How to do it right? Singapore Airlines seems to have a clue. A solid brand, and its uniforms re&#64258;ect that evolution. While I sometimes love the Kiwi humour that the cabin crew engages in, I’d rather have the service levels that Singapore provides any day.</p>
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		<title>By: pacific blue crew</title>
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		<dc:creator>pacific blue crew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 08:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes!! Didn&#039;t think it was possible to get a worse uniform than zambesi. I love my virgin uniform - classic and simple. The air nz staff will look like clowns</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes!! Didn&#8217;t think it was possible to get a worse uniform than zambesi. I love my virgin uniform &#8211; classic and simple. The air nz staff will look like clowns</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! A dose of Pam hits the spot!  I could only add that the brand actually would be identifiable, and that&#039;s the big problem if it&#039;s message is NOT smart, professional, trusted uber-Kiwis.

Still, the public is very strange and mostly unfathomable, unless you talk to market researchers and the like. Perhaps Air NZ could gather twenty top designers and critics and form a focus group?

I think trust is the most important thing for an airline to convey. Funky is - well great if your target market is under 20, or whatever funky means?

Other than that, a great design for airlines is for planes that stay in the air and don&#039;t hit things - everything else is secondary ; )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! A dose of Pam hits the spot!  I could only add that the brand actually would be identifiable, and that&#8217;s the big problem if it&#8217;s message is NOT smart, professional, trusted uber-Kiwis.</p>
<p>Still, the public is very strange and mostly unfathomable, unless you talk to market researchers and the like. Perhaps Air NZ could gather twenty top designers and critics and form a focus group?</p>
<p>I think trust is the most important thing for an airline to convey. Funky is &#8211; well great if your target market is under 20, or whatever funky means?</p>
<p>Other than that, a great design for airlines is for planes that stay in the air and don&#8217;t hit things &#8211; everything else is secondary ; )</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jan 2010 02:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If the Flight Attendants don&#039;t feel comfy in pink they can choose from other great outfits&quot;

NO THEY CAN&#039;T because the whole range is vile. We hate it and we are sick of being patronised by people in the Hub who are totally disengaged from our customers, our community and our front line staff.

Middle managers can backtrack from this mess all they like by trying to reframe with words like &quot;concept&quot;, &quot;choose&quot;, or &quot;it&#039;s just a picture&quot; but at the end of the day its an unattractive glut which offends universal rules of colour, cut, and shape.

Even the models look ill fitted and dressed down. She needs to fix her posture, and her flyaways, and get her pants taken up. He needs to get a haircut and shave. Sloppy and unpolished.

Across the terminals of the world these people will look like a gaggle of white trash. Instead, they should look like a beacon of smart, professional, trusted uber-Kiwis.

BASICS!

Thank god the media have covered this debacle so that staff can express their opinions on sites which are safe from KoruNet&#039;s thought-policing.
They have a year to put the brakes on this pink and snot coloured triviality especially if its going to appear in the 777-300 cabins. That is millions of dollars wasted on a brand campain that will be unidentifiable and impossible to change in the long term because of the high aircraft furnishing cost.

This entire project stinks of the closed door &#039;we know best&#039; pompousness that typifies Air New Zealand&#039;s middle management culture. It is ruining our brand and workplace morale.

I wonder what self-satisfying bonu$ criteria will result in back scratching payouts for this one.

Make a choice - embrace best practice in everything you do or keep up the brand damaging nonsense that will cost our shareholders (the people of New Zealand) more millions.

Take a step outside the Hub (&#039;The Hubble&#039;) and start engaging with the expertise in the world around you.

Stop trivialising our brand, stop patronising our staff and public, and GET BACK TO BASICS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If the Flight Attendants don&#8217;t feel comfy in pink they can choose from other great outfits&#8221;</p>
<p>NO THEY CAN&#8217;T because the whole range is vile. We hate it and we are sick of being patronised by people in the Hub who are totally disengaged from our customers, our community and our front line staff.</p>
<p>Middle managers can backtrack from this mess all they like by trying to reframe with words like &#8220;concept&#8221;, &#8220;choose&#8221;, or &#8220;it&#8217;s just a picture&#8221; but at the end of the day its an unattractive glut which offends universal rules of colour, cut, and shape.</p>
<p>Even the models look ill fitted and dressed down. She needs to fix her posture, and her flyaways, and get her pants taken up. He needs to get a haircut and shave. Sloppy and unpolished.</p>
<p>Across the terminals of the world these people will look like a gaggle of white trash. Instead, they should look like a beacon of smart, professional, trusted uber-Kiwis.</p>
<p>BASICS!</p>
<p>Thank god the media have covered this debacle so that staff can express their opinions on sites which are safe from KoruNet&#8217;s thought-policing.<br />
They have a year to put the brakes on this pink and snot coloured triviality especially if its going to appear in the 777-300 cabins. That is millions of dollars wasted on a brand campain that will be unidentifiable and impossible to change in the long term because of the high aircraft furnishing cost.</p>
<p>This entire project stinks of the closed door &#8216;we know best&#8217; pompousness that typifies Air New Zealand&#8217;s middle management culture. It is ruining our brand and workplace morale.</p>
<p>I wonder what self-satisfying bonu$ criteria will result in back scratching payouts for this one.</p>
<p>Make a choice &#8211; embrace best practice in everything you do or keep up the brand damaging nonsense that will cost our shareholders (the people of New Zealand) more millions.</p>
<p>Take a step outside the Hub (&#8216;The Hubble&#8217;) and start engaging with the expertise in the world around you.</p>
<p>Stop trivialising our brand, stop patronising our staff and public, and GET BACK TO BASICS.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiimy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 22:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totaly agree with Philip k - Ppl are so negative when they first see it..It does bring airNZ into a modern, funky look! Good work AirNZ for choosing a unique top NZ designer to work with. Everyone seems to be slacking off the pink dress because its the most out there look of all, but have not sighted all the other amazing new outfits to choose from! The fabric maybe even more amazing in person..its just a picture! If the flight attendants dont feel comfy in the pink they can choose from other great outfits. Its a great new concept..I cant wait for the new look!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totaly agree with Philip k &#8211; Ppl are so negative when they first see it..It does bring airNZ into a modern, funky look! Good work AirNZ for choosing a unique top NZ designer to work with. Everyone seems to be slacking off the pink dress because its the most out there look of all, but have not sighted all the other amazing new outfits to choose from! The fabric maybe even more amazing in person..its just a picture! If the flight attendants dont feel comfy in the pink they can choose from other great outfits. Its a great new concept..I cant wait for the new look!</p>
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		<title>By: Philip k</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 03:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a fabulous departure, very modern and corporate. Why are people so negative when they first see it. It is a concept. It brings Air NZ into a modern, funky and iconic look that does reflect its status as a premier airline. Great going...and I look forward to see what the others look like.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a fabulous departure, very modern and corporate. Why are people so negative when they first see it. It is a concept. It brings Air NZ into a modern, funky and iconic look that does reflect its status as a premier airline. Great going&#8230;and I look forward to see what the others look like.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 00:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yeah great piece Lee!

 I avoided mentioning Barbara Lee, but there&#039;s more experience designing uniforms AND designing for wealthy middle-class women there than perhaps has ever been shown by Trelise... Her Air NZ designs were probably the best ever, if stylish and professional was part of the brief....

And I see that Kate S was (apparently?) asked to submit but knocked back. By the Air New Zealand branding experts? Hmmm they must be looking for more flounce to present us internationally. Or something.

@MissDom, being a good businesswoman does not make you a great designer - ask some successful designers and if they are really honest, well they will tell you that you can be stunningly creative, contemporary and fashion forward, but that just won&#039;t make you succeed on it&#039;s own. It would not be fair for me to name some, but we can probably all come up with some names.

My opinion is that design - as opposed to art - is about problem solving. A designer is given a set of constraints and comes up with a way to solve the problem within those boundaries. If the problem is posed as a question, and the outcome is not the solution, we should try to make sure the right question was being asked in the first place.

Which leads us to the brief, and those who wrote it. I think that the marketing department at ANZ are either really clever for generating so much publicity by releasing these embarrassing pictures or just unable to make a good decision about some bad results, coming from an ill-conceived brief.

OK, Dressing up the cabin crew in clown suits will be great for the rugby sevens, but what if your core income is from business travel?

These are not design decisions, they are strategic marketing - something design has a relatively minor role to play in, but can cause considerable loss if handled incorrectly. Let&#039;s hope this comes out alright, as we all own a bit of the National Airline.

So.. who has the best airline uniform? And would you pay more to fly with them because of it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah great piece Lee!</p>
<p> I avoided mentioning Barbara Lee, but there&#8217;s more experience designing uniforms AND designing for wealthy middle-class women there than perhaps has ever been shown by Trelise&#8230; Her Air NZ designs were probably the best ever, if stylish and professional was part of the brief&#8230;.</p>
<p>And I see that Kate S was (apparently?) asked to submit but knocked back. By the Air New Zealand branding experts? Hmmm they must be looking for more flounce to present us internationally. Or something.</p>
<p>@MissDom, being a good businesswoman does not make you a great designer &#8211; ask some successful designers and if they are really honest, well they will tell you that you can be stunningly creative, contemporary and fashion forward, but that just won&#8217;t make you succeed on it&#8217;s own. It would not be fair for me to name some, but we can probably all come up with some names.</p>
<p>My opinion is that design &#8211; as opposed to art &#8211; is about problem solving. A designer is given a set of constraints and comes up with a way to solve the problem within those boundaries. If the problem is posed as a question, and the outcome is not the solution, we should try to make sure the right question was being asked in the first place.</p>
<p>Which leads us to the brief, and those who wrote it. I think that the marketing department at ANZ are either really clever for generating so much publicity by releasing these embarrassing pictures or just unable to make a good decision about some bad results, coming from an ill-conceived brief.</p>
<p>OK, Dressing up the cabin crew in clown suits will be great for the rugby sevens, but what if your core income is from business travel?</p>
<p>These are not design decisions, they are strategic marketing &#8211; something design has a relatively minor role to play in, but can cause considerable loss if handled incorrectly. Let&#8217;s hope this comes out alright, as we all own a bit of the National Airline.</p>
<p>So.. who has the best airline uniform? And would you pay more to fly with them because of it?</p>
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